Loved this! Also HAM radio doesn’t work with a Flat Earth. Propagation of radio waves demonstrates a sphere. You send the waves the short path (direct) or the long path opposite direction around the planet. And it can be tested by anyone with a HF radio.
Not disagreeing, just quoting what I know they’d say about low and high frequency radio propagation from Mark Gober’s book:
“In 1901, Guglielmo Marconi sent radio waves across the Atlantic Ocean. Radio waves are simply part of the spectrum of light, but they are not seen with the naked eye. If they are sent to a faraway location on a Globe, they should fly off Earth into space as Earth curves downward. They shouldn’t magically follow the curvature. However, on a Flat Earth, the waves would be sent without worrying about any such obstruction from a curve. Marconi’s transatlantic radio wave transmission was 2,200 miles. Before he attempted this, people were skeptical that he’d be able to do it successfully because they assumed that Earth’s curvature would block the transmission at around 200 miles. Yet he was successful on his first attempt. The response was not “This disproves the Globe,” however. Instead, scientists thought that there must be a layer in the atmosphere that reflected the radio waves back to Earth, over the curve, and to the recipient. And when the waves were reflected, they landed at the recipient’s location. This atmospheric layer is now known as the ionosphere. Globe Skeptics view this to be a post hoc rationalization to preserve the Globe: scientists invented an ionosphere in response to Marconi’s success. Otherwise, they would have had to confess that the Globe model is incorrect. However, as noted by Austin Whitsitt, even if the ionosphere is accepted as legitimate, certain waves should go through the ionosphere and not reflect down to Earth if they employ high frequencies. Here, he’s referring to frequencies higher than the ones used in Marconi’s experiment. Whitsitt cites many examples in which radio waves with such frequencies successfully reached recipients more than 2,000 miles away. In other words, these radio waves shouldn’t have reflected off the alleged ionosphere because higher frequency waves were supposed to penetrate the ionosphere. They should have just flown off into space under the Globe model. And yet they did reach the recipient.”
Of course they would just say it’s made up. But they don’t really address the current advancements in radio or atmospheric science. I’m no scientist-materialist but this is lazy and black and white thinking. plenty of waves just go into space, you have to aim it just right and use the appropriate power and frequency for the conditions of the day, including what the Sun is doing. Anyway, now I’m going to go study propagation more deeply. 🙂 Great podcast!
Superb! Much, much thanks.
https://youtu.be/aF8KfM0T6Ts?feature=shared
This was really superb and an excellent updating.
Loved this! Also HAM radio doesn’t work with a Flat Earth. Propagation of radio waves demonstrates a sphere. You send the waves the short path (direct) or the long path opposite direction around the planet. And it can be tested by anyone with a HF radio.
Not disagreeing, just quoting what I know they’d say about low and high frequency radio propagation from Mark Gober’s book:
“In 1901, Guglielmo Marconi sent radio waves across the Atlantic Ocean. Radio waves are simply part of the spectrum of light, but they are not seen with the naked eye. If they are sent to a faraway location on a Globe, they should fly off Earth into space as Earth curves downward. They shouldn’t magically follow the curvature. However, on a Flat Earth, the waves would be sent without worrying about any such obstruction from a curve. Marconi’s transatlantic radio wave transmission was 2,200 miles. Before he attempted this, people were skeptical that he’d be able to do it successfully because they assumed that Earth’s curvature would block the transmission at around 200 miles. Yet he was successful on his first attempt. The response was not “This disproves the Globe,” however. Instead, scientists thought that there must be a layer in the atmosphere that reflected the radio waves back to Earth, over the curve, and to the recipient. And when the waves were reflected, they landed at the recipient’s location. This atmospheric layer is now known as the ionosphere. Globe Skeptics view this to be a post hoc rationalization to preserve the Globe: scientists invented an ionosphere in response to Marconi’s success. Otherwise, they would have had to confess that the Globe model is incorrect. However, as noted by Austin Whitsitt, even if the ionosphere is accepted as legitimate, certain waves should go through the ionosphere and not reflect down to Earth if they employ high frequencies. Here, he’s referring to frequencies higher than the ones used in Marconi’s experiment. Whitsitt cites many examples in which radio waves with such frequencies successfully reached recipients more than 2,000 miles away. In other words, these radio waves shouldn’t have reflected off the alleged ionosphere because higher frequency waves were supposed to penetrate the ionosphere. They should have just flown off into space under the Globe model. And yet they did reach the recipient.”
Of course they would just say it’s made up. But they don’t really address the current advancements in radio or atmospheric science. I’m no scientist-materialist but this is lazy and black and white thinking. plenty of waves just go into space, you have to aim it just right and use the appropriate power and frequency for the conditions of the day, including what the Sun is doing. Anyway, now I’m going to go study propagation more deeply. 🙂 Great podcast!